Basis of belief

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">YOu said earlier that there are different groups of Muslims right? This is one group that i am talking about... the ones like Osama you know his followers the ones that attack us and get on tv and say death to America... not all of them. Do you have tolerance for this group of Muslims? </div></div>

You're backtracking.
Yes I'M the one that said Extremists should not be used as an example for the true religion of Islam.
YOU did NOT state this, nor do I believe you even understood that fact. Now you're trying to use this in your favor to make yourself look better.

You are the one that made the disparaging statements against them as a whole. </div></div>

Respectfully, what is wrong with backtracking?No I did not state it but I agreed with it. I also understood it... my IQ is higher than you give me credit for.. lol...Not using anything in my favor.. just meant what I said... And do you really think I could make myself look better? lol

[yankeebaseball]

I cant believe you didint know what the crusades were.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yankeebaseball</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cant believe you didint know what the crusades were. </div></div>


Believe it or not.. I did know... but I was not sure if you were talking about like Crusades Benny Hinn does or The early crusades.

[CoeburnCane]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yankeebaseball</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the Crusades?</div></div>

Note that YB used the capitalized "Crusades" when whatever it is that Benny Hinn does would be a "crusade". It was a historical occurance and is often referred to by the capitalized word. That's why no one couldn't believe that you mixed that up, though I can see how you could have.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yankeebaseball</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the Crusades?</div></div>

Note that YB used the capitalized "Crusades" when whatever it is that Benny Hinn does would be a "crusade". It was a historical occurance and is often referred to by the capitalized word. That's why no one couldn't believe that you mixed that up, though I can see how you could have. </div></div>

I am absent minded sometimes.. And I am simple minded most of the time.

[imported_ut1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quick observation--there's such a thing as Christian extremists that kill or use hate tactics too. See those that bomb abortion clinics, those that want to kill gays, those that protest deaths of people and saying they deserved to die because they were sinners being punished by God when they don't know that person's soul or life...etc...

When we talk extremists--I don't just think about jihadists, I think about your Jim Jones, your David Koresh, your Heaven's Gate...all used Christianity as a base for their cults, and even if others aren't "cults", they may claim Christianity as a way for them to slide their own worldly agenda through w/o much resistance because people in general are more hesitant to call out somebody who's going on a crusade of any sort under a Christian banner. </div></div>

Please don't call people like Jim Jones, etc. "Christians". I can put on a policeman's badge and uniform, but that doesn't make me a policeman. I can use other illustrations as well, but I think you can see my point. True Christians have this message to live by and teach to the world: Jesus is the Way, God loves us all and wants us all to spend eternity with Him, and we are to love one another even as God loves us. Any message of perceived violence on the part of Christians is a false message and from someone other than God. Does that mean we should allow the evil forces of the world to run over us? No, as there is a time to stand, to fight, and even to kill.
Jesus warned us about "wolves", and those are the Jim Jones, etc. of the world.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quick observation--there's such a thing as Christian extremists that kill or use hate tactics too. See those that bomb abortion clinics, those that want to kill gays, those that protest deaths of people and saying they deserved to die because they were sinners being punished by God when they don't know that person's soul or life...etc...

When we talk extremists--I don't just think about jihadists, I think about your Jim Jones, your David Koresh, your Heaven's Gate...all used Christianity as a base for their cults, and even if others aren't "cults", they may claim Christianity as a way for them to slide their own worldly agenda through w/o much resistance because people in general are more hesitant to call out somebody who's going on a crusade of any sort under a Christian banner. </div></div>

Please don't call people like Jim Jones, etc. "Christians". I can put on a policeman's badge and uniform, but that doesn't make me a policeman. I can use other illustrations as well, but I think you can see my point. True Christians have this message to live by and teach to the world: Jesus is the Way, God loves us all and wants us all to spend eternity with Him, and we are to love one another even as God loves us. Any message of perceived violence on the part of Christians is a false message and from someone other than God. Does that mean we should allow the evil forces of the world to run over us? No, as there is a time to stand, to fight, and even to kill.
Jesus warned us about "wolves", and those are the Jim Jones, etc. of the world.
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Couldn't have said it better myself... but in Canes defense he is a Christian and I do not think he intentianally meant to associate the 2 together. But the rest of your article is right on.